In this interview Elsa aged 62 talks about her experience of social phobia. She talks openly about the challenges she faces making friends and how Covid-19 has stopped her in her tracks. Elsa reveals that she was diagnosed with asperges very late in life and was a carer for many many years. She talks about how she has felt held back by the challenges she has faced and can experience feelings of depression. Elsa is looking forward to a holiday to Wales that has been canceled twice already. She is proud of how much she has been able to embrace technology during lockdown. She loves her animals and her artwork and is still keen (once this is all over) to attend an 80s dance night for over 55s with her new friend Pat.