An interview with a Specialist Exercise Instructor who supports people in community settings, often with complex health conditions. Sophie has gone from working face to face, in several locations, including care homes, to being based at home providing exercise classes via Zoom. Her story also includes the challenges of work, whilst balancing her time bringing up three children of different ages, home schooling and also the occasional moment to relax! 

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OK, so thanks for doing this. Sophie. Can you tell me a bit about your experience of living through Covid? Yes

I said to my partner, um I guess working, working within the physical activity and exercise industry, um, being everything been absolutely brilliant before covid. So going and doing my sessions, going into care homes, working and working full time being being out in the community and working with the community has just been it was absolutely wonderful. And then the minute covid hit it kind of went from up there and plummeted straight down, and I think not just within the, um, employment side of it, but also mentally and physically as well for everybody

So not just for myself, but for the Children. Um, my partner for all of the clients that used to come to the exercise classes. So I kind of I took all the details from from my clients and, um, give them a call within the first couple of weeks to make sure everybody was OK, But then trying to keep that up when you've got your own family and trying to deal with your own issues mental, mental health, mental well-being

Is it just? It just took a massive plummet. To be honest, like I say, going from up here down there with every part of your life, just kind of hit, hit home a little bit within the first in the 1st 66 to 8 weeks, realising that things weren't going to get back to normal quite as quick as we expected it to, because it was kind of a It was a shock, weren't it? When it all happened and we were told that everybody's gone into lockdown and and everything has to stop, it was very much like this can't be happening. And then when it did, it was like We're sure that this is not going to happen for a long time

We'll be back, back up and running within a couple of weeks. And then when we weren't and it just kept going on and on and on, it just became Groundhog Day, didn't it? Yeah, yeah, I know. It's a while back, isn't it? It's, uh, it seems a long time ago since last March

I can't believe it's we're on the third today anyway, so it's almost a year ago. Isn't it a year? It's the fastest, fastest year of my life. To be honest, thinking, it's been a year, and it was gonna it felt so slow and sort of drawn out for that first couple of weeks

But then it's just gone like that, just going so quickly. So what was the most difficult thing? Sort of doing the transition with the schooling as well. Of course, I know you've got a few Children, haven't you? I've got three

So how did you all at different ages as well. So 14 year old at the time, I had a five year old and a three year old, so three year old she's she was at nursery and not having a clue what was going on. So it was just a matter of us trying to keep her entertained

And obviously we couldn't leave the house we had to stay in. Luckily, we've got a garden to go out into, and we could still do the Was it an hour walk or a half an hour an hour? I think I think it was an hour at the time just trying to get them out. Um, the first, the first lockdown

The home schooling weren't as intense as it is now. It was just a matter of. Here are some lessons

Do what you can. Don't worry about it. That was for the both of the older Children

But then, this time around, I think the education has totally changed, and they've been very strict and rigid with everything. But now it's a matter of the eldest is going upstairs and just doing her own schooling. The middle middle one's literally having three or four live sessions in the morning, which are lasting half an hour, 45 minutes and a five year old

He really struggling to be honest and and that's really difficult. When I'm trying to work from home, that's out working. I'm at home with the three Children or two of them if the little ones at nursery and trying to be trying to be there support because they all need me in different ways with the different age brackets

So me trying to be their support, me trying to be strong do the cooking, cleaning, teaching, washing everything as well as their counsellor, and then you kind of take a step back on an evening when they're all in bed and think, Well, what what about me? Where's my Where's my time? Where's my hour to myself? But by that point in an evening, I'm shattered. I'm cooking, going straight, getting straight and watching television. I've been having a little drink, whether it's a cup of tea or a little glass of wine and then falling asleep on the set, and then it's the next day again, and you just it's just it was just on

Repeat constantly. The kids have really struggled mentally, and then that's hard, seeing them as having an effect on me, trying to keep myself upbeat and then again looking at my area of work, working in the community and having my clients ring me and working with the charity crew as well. Um, having my clients give me a ring to talk to me about their issues, which is absolutely fine because that's that's what I'm here for

I think sometimes when you're constantly taking on other people's negativity, it's not. Obviously it's not intentional negativity, but taking on other people's feelings and you can have a day where you're having 567 phone calls people needing my support again. It's absolutely fine

So that's what I'm here for. But then on an evening, you just need to offload and just relax. And I think it's taken a little bit of time for me to understand how to do that, because I'm not seeing people to offload either

So it's all coming to me and then me not being able to offload on to anybody else. So what? What have you learned from the start of, um, Covid to to now in terms of managing your own sort of sanity, I guess. Mm

I think it's taken even if it's just 15 20 minutes in a day, because it got to the point where the kids were home school and I'm sat on the laptop. It comes to dinner time and I'm still working. I've got my sandwich

I'm eating while I'm working, thinking I'll try and get everything done faster. But then you've got an extra meeting on the end of the day or that phone rings so you never, ever stop. So it's for me the first lockdown

Like I say, it seemed to be that a little bit easier because it weren't as intense. This time around, it's been more OK at a certain time. I need to clock off

I need to make sure the kids clock off for 20 minutes, half an hour. Computers go down, phones go down, electronics go off. And that's our time, whether it's getting the play dough out or drawing together or having a chat, eating together around the table and then within the half an hour going off and then continuing with work or education and then again clocking off at a certain time at the end of the day and making sure we go out

Like I said, we've got a garden back there, so we're quite lucky that we can just go out. If the sun's out and go and play, and I think as well, this time around, it's It's opened our eyes to going out in the elements. If it's not sunny, we can't go out well, why not? We can just go and get our waterproof sun and go and spend some time outside, so it's it's it's made

I've always been an outside person anyway, but it's made everybody go outside and and pay attention to nature. So it's really opened our eyes to to getting out and spending time out there as a family. Um, how how is that has has your family time been very important as well? Again? Sorry

Has your family time been been very important in terms of, uh, doing things together as a Oh gosh, absolutely. That's That's a big thing that's changed for us. Obviously, before covid, we were all we had after school clubs

We were life was a million miles an hour going to work, picking the kids up, doing this, going there, going swimming, going to play gyms, going to parks. Life never stopped. And then, since this happened, everything again, everything's gone from up there to down here, and it's just given us all time to breathe

I think something positive, which something's really positive, has come out of it, and it's made us as a family just slow down. We don't have to spend money. We never really did anyway, but we don't It's less important spending that money

It's more important just to get your shoes on, go and take a walk again, put your phones down, having that time to put them electronics down and spend time as a family and being together. It really been important for us. I was gonna say the kids as well

Yeah, I was. I was gonna ask how how the kids being Because I know you said they found it. They found it challenging, haven't they? So, in terms of the, uh, together time, the family time, how how they do you think they've appreciated it more Rather than sort of being glued to a phone, for example? I know a lot of kids that they they really have

They just loved it. And we found they've they've opened up more as well, I think, because before covid everything was a million miles an hour, it was difficult to take that time out and appreciate just what this is gonna sound awful. Not we've obviously, we appreciate our Children, But sometimes life were that quick that they'd say something, and you'd you'd you'd miss it

Whereas now we've taken that step back. If they want to talk to us, we're there. I'm here all day

You just put your stuff down and you listen to what they've got to say. Because their mental well-being has taken a massive hit, Really? And even at five year old, you wouldn't expect that to happen. You'd expect it to be the older one

It's actually it's hit the five year old more than it has the three and the 14 year old. And I think that's because he's in the middle age where he's not been able to see his friends. He had all that time on Zoom and the Internet, where he's never never done that before

We'd have half an hour of screen time within the house where we don't really watch television or we watch TV when the kids have gone to bed, probably for an hour, and that is it. We don't do screen time. We don't really do ipads or phones from work

So going from that to him being on the screen all that time, it's just it's upsetting quite a lot. He doesn't understand why he's having to be on screen and he can't see his friends. So are you happy to talk about a five year old? Because I just curious about how how are you happy to talk about it? How has it? How has it impacted him? Um, behaviour wise he's he's not interested in his school

Yesterday, for instance, he couldn't get his number nine the right way around, and it it was just him and his teacher on the zoom session, and it was supposed to be, I think, four or five of them, but they only ended up being both of them together. And I think that was quite intense for him. And like I say, he couldn't get his number nine the right way around

He couldn't understand from seeing it on screen to being able to write it down on a piece of paper. He could do all his other numbers, so he threw it down and he ran upstairs and he he had a bit of a meltdown, so it took me five minutes to get him back downstairs. His teacher then obviously wanted to get his work done, so I give him the hard word that upset him a little bit more

But it made him do. But it's just it's It's been really difficult for him with an answering back being it's not a naughty child, but it's turning even speaking to neighbours. It's turning our Children into different characters, but it's not them misbehave

Talking back, we've got to understand. I think that we do all the work in the kitchen. It's it's our home

This home is is their place of safety. This is their safety net. Schools are different atmosphere

That's schools where they learn. But home is where it's their safe place. And I think having to do the school work from home and me being the teacher that I'm not is has had a really negative impact on them

Really? Mm. So I mean, that that's been a big thing, isn't it? That sort of people have had to turn into, um, teachers. Yeah

And how How have you found that? So I know you've You've been working really hard as well throughout covid. But, uh, having to become a teacher. Essentially

How How's it? How's it been? It's really, really tough, because how they teach the kids now is not how we were taught when we were younger. So actually looking at their their maths work, it's frustrating him. But I don't know how to do it like he's been taught

We can both get to the same answer at the end. Actually getting to that answer is totally different, so I can't help him and support him as much as I'd like to do, because I don't know how to to do the workings out his way. And it's the same with his reading and his phonics

It's it's very different to how we were taught. We all get the same at the end. We get the same figure, the same number, the same word

But it's just that that bit beforehand. So did you. Did you get any support from school in terms of any sort of in how to teach? Or has it just been, Oh, there you go crack on

They've been really supportive. I do have to give them that. Like I said, the first

The first lockdown was different. We were given the work to do when we just did it, when we could do upload it on to the their system or we emailed it to the teacher. They marked it and sent it back so that that was great

We did what we could within that time this time around, as I mentioned before, it's it's very strict and rigid, so we've got the live sessions and now because he was struggling. The the school have offered to give him some extra 1 to 1 support, which is brilliant, but that just means added screen time on to what he's already finding difficult. That's what we're struggling with at the minute is having that extra extra support, which he needs

But then it's on the screen, which you just can't deal with. It's too much. So are you looking forward to next? Next week? Monday

What day are we on now? We're on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday Saturday that you counting it down? He's looking forward to it. He can't wait to go back and see his friends and socialise. Are they? Are they all looking forward to it? Yes

Yeah, I mean the little one. She's already at nursery anyway, so that's not changed. But the eldest has to go for a covid test this week

They have to have two a week. Have they done that before, or is that going to be a new thing for them? This is a new thing. She's never had one before, so I'm having to take her down to school, I think this week

This week or next to make sure she's tested negative. But not all the kids. If the parents refuse to do it, they don't have to

They don't have to have a test, but they're still allowed at school, right? So I'm a bit confused as to why they're allowing the Children to go if if they've refused to have. Obviously, everybody's got different circumstances, so may not be able to. But yeah, she's looking forward to the social aspect of getting back

She's had a year without seeing her friends. I need to Because and you look at What are your What are your thoughts in terms of them going back? Is it sort of, I guess. What are they good and bad bits about them, about getting back to a bit of normality? I think it's the anxiety the anxiety of With Life's been slowed right down

We've been getting our supermarket shop delivered to us or doing a click and collect, whereas we used to go as a family before. So for a year they've gone from being around people, having people stand next to them, and it'd be fine from that to now. They've had a year of of social distancing, not being around people or being around in small groups

So now you've got to think the 14 year old she's going back from having all of her friends in a full school environment to being at home for pretty much a year to then going back to a full school environment again, being around people. And she has. I think they have to wear the masks in the classroom as well now

So it's a big, big step and a massive change for her. So personally, I'm I'm pleased that they're going back. But I think they've got their own anxieties in different areas to going back to school

Yeah, mhm for things. What can you do? You just need to go back. Yeah, I guess that will give you a lot more

Will it be? Do you think it'll be a bit odd? Sort of going back to normality and having some free time to sort of work. And yes, it will. But then the anxiety on my side then is waiting for that call to say, the bubble being bust, you're gonna they're gonna have to be at home because they used to have the smaller bubbles of smaller groups

But I think this time around, all the year groups are going back. Yeah, so rather than it being a small bubble of eight, if anyone's tested positive, let's say they they small bubble of eight and then that eight. Go home and stay at home for two weeks

It's the whole year group. Wow. Yes

So although it's nice to going back, I'll be constantly looking at my phone and thinking, I wonder if we're going to get that call today. Are we going to have to be back at home for another two weeks and go backwards again? I know it has to be done, and there's nothing we can do about it. I see the positive of it

But yeah, that's that's where it will be nice having a house free so I can get on with my work and dance around the kitchen and have my music on teaching the classes. Yeah, but hopefully the classes will be going back in May, so? Well, exactly. I just lead rather nicely on to, uh, onto work, doesn't it? Um, yeah

So, um, if you could tell me a little bit about about works. I know you've been working in North Halifax. Um, sort of before and during lockdown

So can you tell me a bit about how your works changed from Sort of when? When it first kicked off in March. Through to sort of now, of course. Yeah

So I've been working in the north of Halifax for I think about five years. I've had my one of my exercise classes up there and working in a few of the care homes in that area, uh, working within the community. So going from having a group of, let's say we've I worked up at Forest Cottage, I did have the class at three ways

The community exercise group at three ways and the three ways closed down. We moved it back up to Forest Cottage. So I think on a good week, we probably had about 35 people exercising in the gentle exercise session

So bearing in mind, my groups are people with health conditions or kind of low level exercise. So no high intensity work, so people needed to sit down. So a lot of my clients are older as well in that respect

So going from having 30 to 35 people in a class where the class is an hour long, they stay behind for 20 minutes, and we all have a chat. It was a social aspect of it as well, to going from that for them to then going to nothing, because a lot of my clients live on their own, and some don't have family around either. So again, that Thursday was the only time that they came out and was able to do a bit of exercise and socialise at the same time

So we've gone from the class to nothing, me trying to keep in touch with them and then, thankfully, crew heart support got funding to be able to put exercises on within the community, but through Zoom. So we've now got five exercise sessions on Zoom, which focus on different areas of exercise. So it was a matter of me getting in contact with all my clients and seeing whether they would come on to the zoom sessions again with the older end

They don't have ipads laptops, or if they do, they've not got the right software on there to be able to download the correct whatever you'd call it zoom teams, so that was a massive barrier for them. So I think out of 35 I only I think I only had three coming from North Halifax, which to me was a bit It was upsetting for me thinking that they all love to do the sessions, but they weren't comfortable doing it over Zoom or didn't know how to do it. So it's gone from again from them up here to every Thursday exercising

We build on the strength and the stamina and fitness, their mental and physical well being from up here and then drop back down. Luckily, some have families. They've got dogs, they can go out for walks

But then there's a high percentage of them that kind of not being able to do anything. And there's nothing I can do to help that. Obviously, there's other areas of the community that we can link in with to help individuals, but it's still difficult to find your clients

You can't force them to do it. You can only advise that's been the hardest part of this time around, and this well, for the full year. To be honest, we've had more

We've had more people joining the zoom sessions. We we did. We had to charge for them at the beginning

I guess this is another thing we had to charge for the zoom sessions before we got the funding. We were only charging £3.50

But I think again we were getting four or five people in the zooms and we only have 21 at the time. We've gone from that to get the funding from the community foundation of the Dale, which allowed us to open the zooms up for six months for free for the community. And now we've gone up to 60 70 people a week coming into the over the week coming into the sessions

So having something there that's free has allowed more people to come and join us within that area again. A big the price. I don't think it was so much the pricing

I think it was the being able to pay was one issue that we had. A lot of the older clients didn't want to pay over the um on the Internet. They didn't know how to do online banking

They couldn't go into the bank because they didn't feel comfortable or they were shielding. We then had, um, a group of them who, like I said before, they don't have the zoom or know how to work it. There's a lot of barriers in the wheel when you've got a group of 35 that's been narrowed right down

Hm. Have Have you managed to keep in contact with any of the people who haven't been able to use him until I have to speak to I speak to them On the odd occasion, I've got all their telephone numbers and their email addresses that thankfully we took before all of this happened. Um, and most of them are on our mailing list anyway, So crew send out, um, I can use letter every month

And when we got funding, we was able to do that every two weeks just to keep keeping checks with people. Make sure they were OK here. If they needed to talk

If they needed any specific exercise sessions and they didn't know how to use the zoom, then they could always get in contact with us, and we would then just either email them over, um, an exercise session that they could do in the wrong time. Or alternatively, we then have the funding to be able to record an exercise session, burn it onto a disc, post it to them, and then they could put it in the DVD player and play the the session themselves just to try and keep them engaged and motivated, which gets difficult when it's over the phone. Yeah, because that must have been a lot of time commitment for you in terms of, um, I'm just phoning people where they're not going to exercise it

I guess that must have been quite labour intensive. It is again you're trying to. You're trying to keep people's motivation high, but they're scared of doing exercise in their own home

If we're not around like I say, a lot of a lot of our clients and and the people who come through our exercise classes have got health conditions, whether it be diabetes, heart conditions and high blood pressure. They've they've all got a different need, so them exercising at home, I think a lot of people were scared of falling or having an injury and then not being left there, whereas when they come to class there's always me there. Everybody else that's making sure they're OK

That was another another big barrier. I think with regards to these exercises online, like they're trying to trying to keep people motivated and engaged. That is difficult

And we had the the walking as well. One of our walk leaders been putting walks together and popping on on the the crew website so people can do their own self guided walks so they would download a map and download the directions. Directions

Yeah, download the map of the directions and then go up on the road and go for a walk if they want. But again, the feedback we got from that was that brilliant. But we've not exercised in, let's say, nine months

Do we have a walk or any exercise? Sessions that are are even lower level. So rather than it being an eight mile walk or a four mile walk, do we have a a half a mile walk? That's all one flat. So now we've kind of pulled away now and and discussed it between the committee and thought right

We need to be putting something else in place for those who have lost mobility lost strength and stamina and bring back down to basics. That's where we are at the minute is trying to put together some some shorter walks, especially up north, the north of Halifax. So where are you? So, where where are you with with that? Have you thought about, um, sort of? Because obviously the restrictions are going to happen gradually, aren't they? Have you sort of put plans? In the end of March, we can go back to walking groups of 30 outdoors, right, which is brilliant, which mean we weren't sure whether it was May or whether it was march

But we had confirmation yesterday evening that if you're exercising outdoors, you can have up to 30 people if it's an organised exercise group, so we'll still have to take bookings of people for the track and trace. Um, but then we are able to to start the the walking groups back up. So I know our one of our main walk leaders is setting his up first as a as a group and a charity where we're slowly implementing the walks

So we're not going to say, right, we're going to get all 10 walks out there again. We're just going to start with one first, see how we get on with that and then start more of them introducing more walks. I have been in contact with, um, an organisation within north Halifax and hopefully we'll be able to get a short walk within their rugby grounds

So fingers crossed within the next couple of weeks. We can then start looking at getting a small walk again, an organised one with, um, not as many people. I don't think we'd take it at 30 because, as I say, a lot of a lot of these people have got mobility issues and they need them

The smaller groups, I think, to feel more comfortable. So we'll be. We'll be taking probably maximum of 10 people just on a just on a short walk, let's say around a rugby ground and then potentially working their way up to be able to do a longer walk in the future

So again it's bringing back to Pier six and just just going back, because I know we touched on a lot of people going via Zoom. What's it been like in terms? Have you noticed the change in people's mood or behaviour in terms of, uh, going from a sort of 35 in a class and very chatty to going on online for those who who could have you, have you? Have you noticed any changes? Yes, the the people that would ordinarily talk and good have really good communication skills. Obviously, being on Zoom and and doing interviews or doing anything on Zoom, we're having to make sure that we either put people on mute

This is the really difficult thing of doing exercise. We either have to put people on mute or make sure that everybody is silent the minute anybody else talks, it cuts the the host off or you can't hear the music. So ordinarily, in a class, everyone's talking

There's a bit of banter between the group. You're all laughing. You're all joking someone I trip up or get the beat wrong and everybody laughs

So you've got this great community when you're face to face. When it comes to zoom, it's it's pretty much the instructive talking and then your clients at the end, we kind of try and have a little chat, but everyone's talking over each other, and it's really difficult So I've seen that that the people that ordinarily would talk and have a bit of a bit of a laugh with you have kind of taken a step back just to listen. They've got no choice

They can't communicate like we used to be able to, as much as they want to, that they, they just haven't which I think, then all this time of doing that, a year of doing this and then going back to class. I think it's going to probably have an impact on everybody's, um, confidence as well. I think a lot of people are going to be lacking in confidence and self belief in themselves that they can still do it

I've had a few a few people come to me and say, You know, I don't want to do a chair exercise. I'm capable of doing a standing up one But I don't know if I can do an hour. So is there any chance of having a chair there just in case I do need to sit down and then potentially not wanting to come and join the class because they're scared of not being able to keep up, you know, my our classes are not like that at all

We will make it accessible for everybody. But I think it it's that individual's confidence and how what we can do to help build on that confidence. I guess it's until they get there and know what they can do

Just makes it really difficult. Um, So how do you think? Do you think it's gonna be so tricky to get them back into a into a room? Because I know a lot of the older people, and I know it's getting younger, having injections for the covid. Um, jabs

How? How easy do you think it's gonna be getting back to normal? Have you thought about the, um like, is there a transition? There is Come May when we can go back. We can do outside exercise sessions now. So I have contacted my group and asked them if they want to do some outside sessions

Which a lot of said, Yes, but again, the barrier, uh, not having toilets to go to because a lot of my clients have. They've got the bus pass. They come on the bus to the session, they do the session, jump back on the bus and get back home

That could be a 2.5 hour period where they they're not able to use the toilet, which is a That's a That's quite a big barrier for for a lot of people. Um, so I we gonna put on a group exercise session outdoors, but that's gonna have to be just put on hold until we can use the facilities, which I think May, Isn't it the exact date now off the top of my head? Um, but come here

When we can go back inside, we'll have all the facilities to use. But we will have to do. Obviously we have to be spaced out within the two metre distance with it being an exercise, and we won't be able to have a large group of people

It's our group is probably gonna have. So it would either mean me doing one session, not just me, but the rest of the instructors doing one session for six week period and having that group of people and then moving on to a different group. So the other half of the class for six weeks, But then you've got this group over here

That's then gonna have a rest for six weeks. It's not going to be beneficial, or it's me having two classes back to back. But then you need a half an hour rest, period within that time to make sure that everything's ventilated

You've done a good clean up before the next group can come in the barriers with that again is going to be room higher because we're gonna have to pay for an hour's room higher, then a half an hour and then the next hour. But that 15 people is probably only just going to pay for that one hour room. Hire you not gonna get a wage from it

It's really difficult not having being able to facilitate that big group, but we're going to have to do it in order to get to where we want to be in June, when everything opens up fully and then hopefully we can have more people within the class. So at the moment we can do outdoors. Then it's gonna be smaller groups and then come June time may Well, yeah, May you've got your smaller groups, and then June, we hopefully we'll be able to bring more people through the door

So I think it's gonna be really difficult for any fitness professional from now until June time, I'd say. So do you think sort of subsidies? Maybe, um, to enable you to deliver this kind of activity would be would be very beneficial. Oh, gosh, Absolutely

I don't I can't see having discussed it with all of the instructors that work with crew, um, and other instructors within the dale, it's it's gonna hit. We we're kind of going to hit a brick wall because we need we need Obviously, it's our livelihood. We need to be paid for doing the classes that we're delivering, but because we're having to reduce the amount of people and it wouldn't surprise me if room hires don't go up because your church halls, your community rooms, they've not had anybody in for a year

There's potential that the room high is gonna go up. We can't have as many people, so we're not going to be making enough money, Let's say, or or enough to pay for your instructor. So what we probably will need to look at doing is trying to find some funding there for the charity to be able to pay our five instructors to be able to go and deliver and potentially get room hire covered for a certain amount of time and then maybe be able to subsidise the cost for the the actual service user to come through the door

You know, everybody's circumstances, do we there? There may be people that can't afford now to come and do the sessions that they once were able to do, and it's important we carry on and we we get people exercising again. We both know for not just for the physical well-being but for the mental as well. We need to get people outdoors

It doesn't necessarily have to be an exercise class. It could be the walks. It could be the the community gardens, gardening anything just to get the individuals moving and to feel confident to move with the right people around them

So we we work with people with health conditions. Um, with the charity heart support is is supporting people to prevent any heart conditions occurring or any health conditions, or to work with people who have just recently had a heart condition. So then our clients need to be looked after

We can't just leave them. We're there every step of the way with them, making sure that we support them from the beginning to the to the end of the session. And throughout the time that they're our members

Answer your question. I seem to have rambled on there. No, no, it's just It's just really, really interesting in terms of, uh, your your knowledge in terms of, uh, North Halifax and exercise

And I I I I agree in terms of, uh, you know, and I think North Halifax is is is difficult as well. With it, being an area of deprivation is having, as I mentioned, having people coming through the door that have got the money to be able to afford the sessions. And it's not just the older clients either

Crew can work with. With anybody from 18 upwards. We can work with younger people as long as they're accompanied by an adult

So we we are seeing or we were, should I say seeing more people come into our sessions that were younger so it may potentially out of work or, um, new parents that have got to look after the child so they can just come out for for an hour and do a little bit of exercise with us knowing that it's not too intense and it's a safe place to be so Yeah, I guess it's looking at within the north Halifax area. What? What is out there? What can help us and what can support the charity going on in the future and continuous going, getting people exercising and moving. Yeah, well, I think is there, um I think that's pretty much, uh, yeah

Brilliant. No, thanks. Thanks very, very much

Is there anything that you'd like? Uh, anything you you'd like to say And anything else that we haven't covered? I don't think so. I think we've covered everything over there. I know

No, that's brilliant. Brilliant. No, thanks very much for your for your, uh, for your time, Sophie

I do appreciate it. Not a problem. OK,

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